Episode 28: Dan Mazzuca, CFCC, CCC, CEIP, CMI
Welcome to the Tactical Transition show notes!
In this episode, your hosts Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po are joined by their friend and mentor, Dan Mazzuca. Dan is a highly experienced expert dedicated to supporting transitioning service members, with an impressive 47 years supporting the DoD. This includes 26 years on active Air Force duty and 14 years as a Department of Air Force civilian.
Michele Lewis shares that working under Dan Mazzuca's high standards while he managed the Transition Assistance Program (TAP) pushed her and Cyndi Po to "step up our game." This pursuit of excellence became the "spark that drove Cyndi and me to branch out" and create their own resources, knowing that more and better information was needed. Dan Mazzuca explains his motivation stemmed from his own challenging transition in 2003 when TAP was less developed. He felt strongly that "we owed it to those who defended our country to provide them with the best."
Here are some key takeaways from their insightful conversation:
- Networking is crucial. Dan Mazzuca landed his job at Lockheed Martin through networking after military retirement and saw many peers struggle without it.
- Companies should proactively value and retain star employees. Dan Mazzuca advises against waiting until an employee gives notice, stating, "The worst time for you to practice retention is when somebody gives notice."
- Find a job that fulfills your "heart" and "pocketbook". Dan Mazzuca took a significant pay cut, leaving Lockheed Martin for his "dream job" of running the TAP program because it filled his heart. Don't be afraid to make a career switch, even later in life.
- Address the hesitation to leave the DoD space. Service members must recognize their transferable skills apply to many non-defense jobs. An Army Artillery Lieutenant Colonel successfully transitioned to a Director of Operations role in a civilian company by focusing on leadership abilities, proving you can transition "totally outside His comfort zone."
- Navigate the challenge of over or undervaluing experience. Dan Mazzuca observed senior leaders sometimes expect C-suite roles immediately or aim too low at mid-level management despite having director-level skills. While C-suite roles often require industry experience, senior leaders often retire young enough to work towards them.
- Leverage mentorship. Connecting with veterans already in your desired field provides invaluable guidance. Examples included a command chief becoming a town supervisor with a veteran mentor's help and a base commander getting a high-level job through networking after taking a break.
- Understand and navigate Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS). ATS uses AI to screen resumes before they reach a human.
- Tailor your resume to the job description. Using a generic resume is a common mistake; employers "plead" for applicants to match their resume to the job ad.
- Utilize AI-powered tools like Job Scan and Skill Syncer. These websites compare your resume to a job description to identify missing keywords and help optimize for ATS. Skill Syncer offers one year of free premium access for veterans, active duty military, and military spouses. As Dan Mazzuca quotes, "AI will not replace people, but people who can use AI will replace people who cannot use AI."
- Build your "employment toolbox." A resume is not enough. Success requires networking, strong interview skills, negotiation skills, an optimized LinkedIn profile, and potentially joining professional organizations.
Dan Mazzuca also mentions his LinkedIn blog, "Coach's Corner," where he shares transition advice. He is always available to help veterans find resources.
The hosts express their gratitude, and Dan Mazzuca calls Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po his "two favorites in the labor and employment space." Michele Lewis emphasizes their mission: "to make sure that when they step out of the service, they have a strong foundation."
Dan Mazzuca's contact information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danmazzuca/